prof carter whole premise is that small data sets are not the true picture. data sets of 10 years or even 100 years are to small. You misrepresent him. He just used the 1998 to the present as a similiar comparison to the GW's using 100 or so year data. Both are not true indicators of the earths climate past or future. ps there was a mideveil warm period warmer than today and there was no co2 emmissions from humans
Rundown? What do you mean? you only comment on a small portion of Carters arguments, and even a small portion of that. You don't even comment on the other parts, because they are true! Like Bono sings: "You're just stuck in a moment, and you can't get out of it!" The whole CO2 thing is falling apart and only survives because of science deniers; Like them, you're a politician, not a scientist.
Previously, the alarmist were telling us how 1998 was the warmest year in recorded history and that this proved that CO2 caused GW was a problem. Now, when it cools after 1998, we hear that 1998 was only so warm due to El Nino (which Carter has addressed numerous times incidentally). But the point is, you can't have it both ways. You can't ignore El Nino when it suits you, then use it later.
I have a question. I know why most of Carter's stuff is wrong. But in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN06JSi-SW8&feature=related , at about 2:00, he shows that the rate of temperature change was much higher in the past. Why is this, and doesn't it "prove" that the current rapid warming period is not bad?
When are you going to wake up to the incontrovertible fact that so-called weather scientists are unable to predict what the weather will do next year, let alone in the next fifty years. Note that the anxiety industry (the media) now use the term "climate change" rather than "global warming". This way, no matter what happens, you are always right! Also, realise that nothing you do will change climate.
You have a confusion over the terms "climate" and "weather". Weather and climate are pseudo-random systems. Weather is like a single coin flip, and climate is like many coin flips. While we do not know what the outcome of any one flip will be, we know that, on average, it will be half heads and half tails.
If you look at data FURTHER back than the typical 1850 cutoff that for some reason people have decided to use and instead look back 1,000 or even better on a geologic scale 1,000,000 or 100,000,000 years you will clearly see that it is COLDER now than in the history of our planet and the current trends no matter what data set you choose are clearly within the normal change limitations. Even looking at rate of change in temperature it is clear when looking at ALL the data that our current 1.5-2.5°C per century warming rate is nowhere near the very common 10-15°C rates that were present in the past.
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So - Nasa say 2005 is the hottest year on record? Hmmm - but that was a mistake and now they say 1936 was the hottest year.
Absolute load of shite.
oops looks as though 2007/2008 isn't going to win the hottest year on record prize either!
prof carter whole premise is that small data sets are not the true picture. data sets of 10 years or even 100 years are to small. You misrepresent him. He just used the 1998 to the present as a similiar comparison to the GW's using 100 or so year data. Both are not true indicators of the earths climate past or future. ps there was a mideveil warm period warmer than today and there was no co2 emmissions from humans
Rundown? What do you mean? you only comment on a small portion of Carters arguments, and even a small portion of that. You don't even comment on the other parts, because they are true! Like Bono sings: "You're just stuck in a moment, and you can't get out of it!" The whole CO2 thing is falling apart and only survives because of science deniers; Like them, you're a politician, not a scientist.
Previously, the alarmist were telling us how 1998 was the warmest year in recorded history and that this proved that CO2 caused GW was a problem. Now, when it cools after 1998, we hear that 1998 was only so warm due to El Nino (which Carter has addressed numerous times incidentally). But the point is, you can't have it both ways. You can't ignore El Nino when it suits you, then use it later.
I have a question. I know why most of Carter's stuff is wrong. But in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN06JSi-SW8&feature=related , at about 2:00, he shows that the rate of temperature change was much higher in the past. Why is this, and doesn't it "prove" that the current rapid warming period is not bad?
When are you going to wake up to the incontrovertible fact that so-called weather scientists are unable to predict what the weather will do next year, let alone in the next fifty years. Note that the anxiety industry (the media) now use the term "climate change" rather than "global warming". This way, no matter what happens, you are always right! Also, realise that nothing you do will change climate.
Mugspew, that did not answer my question.
You have a confusion over the terms "climate" and "weather". Weather and climate are pseudo-random systems. Weather is like a single coin flip, and climate is like many coin flips. While we do not know what the outcome of any one flip will be, we know that, on average, it will be half heads and half tails.
If you look at data FURTHER back than the typical 1850 cutoff that for some reason people have decided to use and instead look back 1,000 or even better on a geologic scale 1,000,000 or 100,000,000 years you will clearly see that it is COLDER now than in the history of our planet and the current trends no matter what data set you choose are clearly within the normal change limitations. Even looking at rate of change in temperature it is clear when looking at ALL the data that our current 1.5-2.5°C per century warming rate is nowhere near the very common 10-15°C rates that were present in the past.
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