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In other words the accuracy of the models is appallling!</B><BR/><BR/>Yes, I agree the range is pretty wide. But I'm sure you can agree that even the lowest end of the range is something that would be nice to avoid.<BR/><BR/>And I'm sure you can agree hansen's comparison of models to the past and his accuracy since 1988 are both objective criterion that they work.M.J. S. - (Wacki)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14985820536142090350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32632242.post-1163426089096800402006-11-13T05:54:00.000-08:002006-11-13T05:54:00.000-08:00GIGOT: Some of these predictions of global warming...GIGOT: Some of these predictions of global warming of five, six degrees over the next century — obviously we don't know that for a fact because it's ahead of us. They're based on computer models. How accurate are those models?<BR/><BR/>LINDZEN: At this point, there's virtually no objective criterion that says that they work. Moreover, I mean, carbon dioxide alone wouldn't cause that. It would only cause about a degree.<BR/><BR/>The predictions of a lot more come from the way the models treat clouds. Every modeler I know acknowledges that they do it disastrous job on clouds. So those predictions are based on things that we know are wrong.<BR/><BR/>Lindzen did not answer the question. He was asked "How accurate are those models?" The answer is that over the next century they predict a range of 1.5C to 6.5C. In other words the accuracy of the models is appallling!Alastairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15152292130415788120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32632242.post-1161313559182914842006-10-19T20:05:00.000-07:002006-10-19T20:05:00.000-07:00Richard Lindzen says:But there is no agreement tha...<I>Richard Lindzen says:<BR/>But there is no agreement that the warming we've seen is due to man.</I><BR/><BR/>Apparently, Lindzen would say there was "no agreement" as long as someone, anyone, (such as Lindzen) continued to disagree with the now massive consensus on climate change. i.e., in Lindzen Land there is no agreement until every last human being agrees. Sigh...John Feeneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05936570773795754939noreply@blogger.com